Please respond to the following questions taken from reading p. 49-85.
1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
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1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
ReplyDeleteI tend to learn more from a failure because I am able to see where I have made mistakes. When I understand my mistake I can fix it. Fixing mistakes help me learn what I need to do next time if the same situation presents itself.
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
I have asked the same question for years. We must give our students credit for what they are able to achieve. Simply following the same path we have been on is not working for a majority of our students. It is time to make changes for the better.
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
In self-assessment students are able to see what they know (have learned) and what they do not know (have not learned). The students can take time to assess what they may have missed and what gaps, if any, need to be filled.
1. I believe most of us learn more from failures than from success. When we fail at something, we must re-evaluate and make changes so that we can achieve success the next time.
ReplyDelete2. Because as a culture, we are geared toward the "3 R's" and we place too much emphasis on the grades rather than the progress being shown.
3. Students always benefit from immediate feedback and having a say in their grades. It's harder to look inward than to have someone else "tell" us how we've done.
1. You learn from your failures. If you are always the student that gets it right and never has to struggle, you are not truly learning. However, if you are constantly failing and learning from it, you are building bridges in your mind that help you be more successful not only with your current situations, but in future endevours as well. It's like Disney's "Meet the Robinsons" movie. The main character is an inventor that consistantly fails over and over again until he gets it right. His main quote is "keep moving forward". His family even cheers for him when he fails, because they explain that you learn from your mistakes and keep moving forward. :)
ReplyDelete2. We don't measure those qualities because you can't assign a grade value to skills learned and have it hold up to the parents. There is little proof. Parents, districts, and the state are interested in viable and testable skills learned in the classroom.
3. When students assess themselves it makes them aware of how much or how little they are putting into their work. It holds them accountable for their attitudes and actions during their learning.
1.I believe you learn more from failure because you have to re-evaluate why you failed and how to change the situation to be successful.
ReplyDelete2.I am not sure why we do not evaluate these qualities in our children. I think it is very important for children to learn independence and how to deal with situations that are not always pleasant.
3. I think the benefit for student self assessment is that it actually holds the student accountable and the student sees significance in the project. The child has a reason to do a better job because it is essential to them.
1. . Do you learn more from success or failure?
ReplyDeletePeople learn more from trial and error than by getting everything correct the first time.
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don’t we measure them in school?
It is difficult to grade abstract skills. Everyone has a different expectation of what each should look like. It is harder to validate abstract grades that content grades.
3. “Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts” p. 76. What benefits are there for student self assessment?
The first thing is that students become more aware of the quality of their work. Second, in the real world, people have to be able to evaluate their work. Third is the student is more aware of how they received the grade they did.
1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
ReplyDeleteI think you learn more from failure because that causes you to evaluate where you made your mistakes and growth always occurs from evaluating your product.
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
Because when it comes down to it....assignments and tests is measured in classrooms to report on progress.
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
It develops problem solving skills that will empower them for lifelong success.
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ReplyDeletePlease respond to the following questions taken from reading p. 49-85.
1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
I believe you learn more from failure, but only if you go back and reassess where you went wrong.
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
Too much stock is put into the core subjects and passing the state test.
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
They need to learn to rely on themselves and not others therefore they need to be able to assess their independence.
I'm just going to answer the first question: whether I learn best from success or failure...
ReplyDeleteI have never liked the idea that you need to fail in order to learn a lesson. Ex: In order to learn the iron is hot, sometimes you just have to get burned.
What? Are you serious?! Who wants to get burned?!! I'm very thankful that my mom told me "NO...that's hot...don't touch!" and did it in a way that I knew I shouldn't touch it. I could tell by her voice, expression, etc. that she knew what she was talking about. I learned through my success, not failure!
I think having the perspective that students need to learn through their own errors, or "discovery", can be dangerous! Yes, I understand that making your own meaning through discovery is powerful, but why can't you make meaning through quality instruction? For a student that has struggled all of their life, perhaps the last thing they need is another failure to look back upon.
I would much rather learn through my success than through my failures!
1.When successful, I have been able to take away from the experience and grow but I also believe that in my failures I have learned a great deal as well. It’s always okay to get an answer wrong (we’re all human) as long as we learn from it.
ReplyDelete2.The attitude and independence of students is subjective.
3.As we learn from our failures so do our students. Given the opportunity for self assessment students will learn and grown in areas that they see they are weaker in because they naturally want to be successful learners.
Kathleen:
ReplyDelete1. I can’t say one more or less; I think I learn from both, what works & what doesn’t. But, I can say that the best successes and the worst failures stick with you the longest
2. I think teachers model these behaviors, or at least try to. I think they do their best to nurture these behaviors in their students. We may not measure them with grades, however; subconsciously or subjectively we may.
3. Higher level thinking and problem solving are developed.
1.I learn from experience, things that seemed a success may not be, and sometimes what I thought was a failure lead to better things.
ReplyDelete2. When Pearson figures out how to test it and make a profit, we will.
3.Self assessment is self awareness, that leads to being a life long learner because you become aware of what you need to know, and that you don't know everything, and that's ok, we can google it.
1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
ReplyDeleteI learn from both. My successes have been the most dominant memories in my life. I love to conquer. However, I learn from my mistakes and move on.
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
These are the intangibles, X-Factors that contribute to success, and like all intangibles they cannot be measured. Their end product –Success- is measured.
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
When a student self assesses, he/she finds out if there is success to relish, or failure to agonize on. Nobody wants to fail. They work hard and aim high.
1) In general people learn more from failure becaues they learn what was wrong and how to fix it. This processes highlights they whys for a student. However there are those students who need to experieonce success to be motivated and what to learn/preform.
ReplyDelete2.These items are the constants in an equation. By no means are they constant, but they are the factors that vary for each student yet are still a factor in everything they do. These items are subjective and we cannot accurately measure them in a constant fair manor. Mile stones are different for everyone.
3. Numerically this statement is true, but at the high school level when a student asks a teacher to write a rec. letter, is it a lot more than then grades that matter. It is the effort and drive of the student. If the student is taking them time to self assess they have an internal drive to want to do better and be the best they can be. If a student cannot self assess we are not doing our jobs.
1. Do you learn more from success or from failure?
ReplyDeleteI personally learn more from failure than I do success. Failure drives me to improve and I concentrate harder in order to get the results I desire. If I am always successful, I start operating on automatic....
2. If the development of qualities such as taking initiative, working independently, being polite, and having a positive attitude are desirable, why don't we measure them in school?
I believe the reason we do not measure the desirable qualities in school because it is hard to quantify those qualities.
3. "Students know that grades are what counts in school, and that is where they concentrate their efforts." p.76 What benefits are there for student self assessment?
If students self assess... they will be able to analyze their own strengths and weaknesses and they can work towards goals that will help them in the long run.
You can learn from both success and failure. Success can give you a feeling of accomplishment and inspire you to learn more. Failure helps you learn often through the process of trial and error and helps build a base of knowledge. I realize that the author has a different opinion of success, but I don't believe that it is as bad as he makes it out to be. Success can also inspire more problem solving.
ReplyDeleteActually, we do measure them in school with the use of conduct grades. However, these qualities are not as valuable as the development of problem solving skills and the process of problem solving should be considered in mastery of content. Unfortunately, we are still measuring with paper and pencil evaluations. But fortunately the classroom teacher has the room to use many different evaluation methods (such as through art, drama, writing, etc.)in addtion to the old paper and pencil exams required.
In the problem solving method, students can be evaluated on the entire process not just the end result where the student puts their emphasis on the grade. The author states that students are very honest when self evaluating and conversations can develope with the teacher to expand on their thinking to help them with future projects.
Daryle (MartinTeach)